Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site gloria.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxb!mhuxn!mhuxm!mhuxj!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!sdcrdcf!sdcsvax!dcdwest!ittvax!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!rochester!rocksvax!rocksanne!sunybcs!gloria!colonel From: colonel@gloria.UUCP (George Sicherman) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: Zen master and student Message-ID: <853@gloria.UUCP> Date: Sun, 27-Jan-85 22:41:45 EST Article-I.D.: gloria.853 Posted: Sun Jan 27 22:41:45 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 2-Feb-85 11:38:23 EST References: <252@stat-l>, <1064@houxm.UUCP> <1651@pucc-h> Organization: SUNY-Buffalo Computer Sci. Lines: 19 > > It seems there was once a master and a student. The student asked the > > master one day "What is the meaning of the Tao?" The master slapped > > the student in face and said, "If you have to ask then obviously you do > > not understand." > > 1. The master's line is so obvious that it's hardly worth saying. > 2. This is exactly the kind of perfectionistic attitude that is killing me > -- the idea that any lack of knowledge or understanding is a sin deserving > painful punishment. It's not perfectionistic! Here's another well-known story: The master said to the student, "If you do not utter a word of zen I will strike you, and if you utter a word of zen I will strike you." The bewildered student said nothing. The master slapped him. -- Col. G. L. Sicherman ...seismo!rochester!rocksanne!rocksvax!sunybcs!gloria!colonel