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From: stevev@tekchips.UUCP (Steve Vegdahl)
Newsgroups: net.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Getting to 1st without a hit, revisited
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Date: Thu, 31-Jan-85 12:39:24 EST
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Posted: Thu Jan 31 12:39:24 1985
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> Imagine my
> amusement when a friend came up with an entirely new way, which
> he claims is legal:  Steal 1st from 2nd.  To my immediate query,
> "Why would anyone do that?", he said, "To run up his statistics.

I'd never thought of that one before!  I can imagine a situation
where this could happen for a "legitimate" reason.

Runner on second, leading off.  Pitcher attempts to pick runner off, but
runner beats throw; however, in reaching second, the runner loses his
balance and falls towards first, losing contact with the bag.  This
results in a rundown between first and second in which the runner manages
to make it safely to first.  A little far-fetched, but I've seen stranger
things in baseball.

Is this legit according to baseball rules?  If not, what are the runners
options once he is in "no man's land" between second and first? the
fielding teams options?  If the runner cannot legally return to first,
it would seem that the play at second (once the runner has fallen) would
be a force play.

		Steve Vegdahl
		Computer Research Lab.
		Tektronix, Inc.
		Beaverton, Oregon