Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site hou4b.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxj!houxm!vax135!ariel!hou5f!hou4b!ebh From: ebh@hou4b.UUCP (Ed Horch) Newsgroups: net.suicide Subject: Re: suicidal tendencies (of long-distance friends) Message-ID: <1289@hou4b.UUCP> Date: Mon, 21-Jan-85 16:02:52 EST Article-I.D.: hou4b.1289 Posted: Mon Jan 21 16:02:52 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 23-Jan-85 07:09:55 EST Organization: AT&T-ISL, Holmdel, NJ Lines: 44 > [Ken Turkowski] > I just found out that a friend of mine committed suicide last July. > It's sometimes several months before I try to re-establish contact. > Are there any signs that I should watch out for? I only quoted these three segments of your article, since I believe they demonstrate the unique and difficult situation you were in here. Suicide, being the impulsive act that it is, is hard enough to anticipate, without the distance problem. The signs of an impending attempt are very subtle, and easy to miss, even when you're in constant contact with the victim. My advice is this: Watch for changes in the way someone talks about himself. We're not too worried that a certain regular contributor to net.singles will do something like this, even though we have read so many of his "God I'm the scum of the earth" messages. I would be worried if all of a sudden we read "Well, I guess everything's all fixed up now," and we never heard from him again. When someone who's normally not vocal about depression or poor self- image or the like becomes so, or they mention the idea of suicide, especially if this is the kind of communication that only occurs a few times a year, take notice. When you're thinking about suicide, it's very easy to talk about it in a letter, as compared with telling someone face to face. At that point you should call them up, if possible, and say "Hey look, what you wrote was pretty heavy; want to tell me what's going on?" I'll warn you, though, it's almost never that easy. Just like what happened, you won't normally get hit over the head with something like this, until it's too late. You have to read between the lines of the letters you get, and maybe be a little psychic. My example above can occur when someone who has been contemplating suicide finally decides to go ahead with it, and is secure in the knowledge that it'll all be over soon. This is even more serious than the initial mention, because an attempt is more imminent, and usually more serious. I'll finish by reiterating what I said before: if you think someone with whom you're corresponding is thinking about suicide, CALL THEM. Don't think that you have enough time to mail another letter. It may never get read. -Ed Horch {ihnp4,akgua,houxm}!hou4b!ebh