Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!alice!dutoit!dmr From: dmr@dutoit.UUCP Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards Subject: AT&T and Unix Message-ID: <2002@dutoit.UUCP> Date: Mon, 28-Jan-85 02:27:16 EST Article-I.D.: dutoit.2002 Posted: Mon Jan 28 02:27:16 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 29-Jan-85 05:07:59 EST Lines: 30 Although this is indeed not a good forum to discuss licensing issues, I can't resist. Brandon Allbery wonders why AT&T provides source licenses for Unix at low cost to educational institutions (which must, by the way, be degree-granting, and which also must use the system for educational purposes only: if they use it for administration or other such things they pay more). The policy of educational licenses has been in effect for a long time (since well before Unix) and is generally defended internally by reasons such as these: 1) General social benefit by supporting education 2) Increased visibility and better communication for Bell Labs within the scientific community. Giving licenses to anyone who asks (or even who certifies that he is just a little guy who promises not to compete) is not in the cards. In another letter, Chuqui von R. displays a couple of misapprehensions: First, AT&T does not get any tax break out of cheap source licenses for universities. To write off a donation, you must give it free and clear. As has been discussed at length here, licenses are licenses to use; AT&T still owns the source. Thus no donation. Second, AT&T didn't "have to" give educational licenses. There were commercial licenses years before divestiture. Dennis Ritchie