Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/3/84; site enmasse.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!mcnc!decvax!wanginst!ucadmus!harvard!talcott!panda!enmasse!mike From: mike@enmasse.UUCP (Mike Schloss) Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards Subject: Re: Re: Re: Findsuid source (Re: Security an Message-ID: <332@enmasse.UUCP> Date: Fri, 1-Feb-85 20:04:54 EST Article-I.D.: enmasse.332 Posted: Fri Feb 1 20:04:54 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 4-Feb-85 05:24:11 EST References: <327@lsuc.UUCP> <6200045@uokvax.UUCP> Organization: Enmasse Computer Corp., Acton, Mass. Lines: 16 > Another problem with having a find-suid-programs program that runs based > on crontab entries is that anyone can see when the find-suid-programs > program is going to run next, and make their moves on that basis. > > kurt But what are they going to do about it. I suppose that if they knew the order in which file systems were traversed they might be able to move their program to a safe area and back again when all clear but this seems a little drastic. Easier to just modify an existing suid-root program (like su) to grant a specific user or password root access. CACM had an interesting article on this stuff a while back... It amounted to this, once root has been comprimised just once, the whole system is suspect unless everything is rebuilt from scratch, from the distribution tape.