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From: west@utcsrgv.UUCP (Thomas L. West)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Re: Anti-Porn Ordinance
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Date: Sat, 26-Jan-85 00:21:35 EST
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Reply-To: west@utcsrgv.UUCP (Thomas L. West)
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  Jon Mauney states:
>   The problem with sex movies is that they aren't very good movies.  If you
> want people to think that sex is a warm, loving exchange between loving 
> partners, then you should get decent producers, directors actors and screen-
> writers to make explicit movies rather than banning them.

Nice idea, but I don't think we'll see that sort of thing.  Why?  Probably
because warm, loving exchanges between loving partners don't require
explicit movies.  The only people who make pornographic movies are the ones
whose attitudes towards women aren't particluarily great.  If they were, they
wouldn't be making the movies!
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  As a second point, people have pointed out that life was no great shake
for women *before* pornography was a big industry, so obviously pornography
isn't a factor.  This sort of reasoning is a little suspect.  How about 
pornography isn't the *only* factor in determining attitudes towards women.
However, it is *a* factor, and a very unfavourable one, in my opinion.

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  Somebody claimed that censorship aided the Nazi's.  This is true, but they 
required a free press in order to gain power way before they were able to 
control the press for their own ends.  In Canada, for example, the Neo-Nazi's
are in big trouble for spreading hate literature which *is* an offence.  Given
this sort of thing, it would be hard for the Nazi party to be reborn.  However,
it is true that censorship can be misused.  Censorship boards should definitely
have (1) to give reasons for censoring anything and (2) have a court appeal
procedure.

Tom West