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From: tracy@hcrvx1.UUCP (Tracy Tims)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Fun Sex in Movies, Moral Heavies
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Date: Sun, 27-Jan-85 20:32:07 EST
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>>Jon Mauney states:
>>If you want people to think that sex is a warm, loving exchange between loving
>>partners, then you should get decent producers, directors actors and screen-
>>writers to make explicit movies rather than banning them.

>Tom West responds:
>Nice idea, but I don't think we'll see that sort of thing.  Why?  Probably
>because warm, loving exchanges between loving partners don't require
>explicit movies.  The only people who make pornographic movies are the ones
>whose attitudes towards women aren't particularily great.  If they were, they
>wouldn't be making the movies!

Well, we do see that sort of thing.  There is more frequently in mainstream
cinema excellent sex scenes between warm and loving couples that are quite
a turn on to [some] men (me) and women.  (Empirically verified.)  Also
note that you seem to think that healthy sex scenes are pornographic.  Why?
I would say exciting, erotic, and a fun turn on, but *not* pornographic.
There are too many negative connotations associated with the word pornographic.

"If they were, they wouldn't be making the movies!" is a nonsense statement, if
by "pornographic movie" you mean any film with graphic sex.  I'll go out and
make a sex film to disprove you if I have to.  (I'll call it _Unix_Do_Dallas_.
Anyone want to help?)  I have a wonderful attitude towards women.

Did you ever stop to think that because of the taboos (which Jon Mauney has
pointed out) about sex that most people can't think clearly about it and
hence cannot distinguish legitimate eroticism from pornography?

I assert:  I like to see sex on the screen, as long as it's done with depth
and sensitivity.  Is that pornography?

I think that you, as one of the moral heavies on the network, should define
more precisely what you think should be censored, so we know just what you
object to (and how repressed you are 8-)).

                              Tracy Tims    {linus,allegra,decvax}!watmath!...
   Human Computing Resources Corporation                     {ihnp4,utzoo}!...
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