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From: jcgowl@ihlpg.UUCP (r. gowland)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Re: beyond honorifics
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Date: Fri, 1-Feb-85 16:03:26 EST
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Posted: Fri Feb  1 16:03:26 1985
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> Over there in the Isles of the Brit's there was this fellah named Guy Fawkes
> who had this idea that the House of Lords (British types --- correct me if
> I'm wrong) shouldn't be in one piece.
> So he decided to blow it up.  It never happened, of course, but the
> anarchists over there have a holiday to celebrate once a year in honor
> of his attempt.
> When somebody was being scolded as not being trustworthy, they were called
> "Guy's", which lost its capital letter somewhere along the way.
> So calling somebody a "guy" is actually an insult.  (I think!)
> Of course, I might be wrong (That happened once in 1968.....)
Brit speaking (speaking?)
1) am I as a male allowed to follow-up here?
2) not only anarchists, but EVERYBODY in the country spends the
evening of Nov 5 or the next nearest Saturday scaring the wits
out of our nation's pets by exploding gunpowder and burning old
mattresses (we haven't so many waterbeds yet). 
3) I was told as soon as I landed in this country that Goy was
from a Jewish word meaning non-Jewish (is that Gentile?) and that
mispronunciation had led to guy. I dont know whether this is
true, but being British and being invited starts me off...
To get back to the original reason for following up, Yes, Guy
Fawkes (a Dutchman) did fail to do what Arthur Scargill is now
trying.
ihlpg!jcgowl Roger R. Gowland expatriate Brit at large