Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ucbvax.ARPA Path: utzoo!dciem!nrcaero!pesnta!hplabs!ucbvax!info-vax From: info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA Newsgroups: fa.info-vax Subject: V4.0 upgrade problem Message-ID: <5060@ucbvax.ARPA> Date: Mon, 25-Feb-85 04:36:23 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.5060 Posted: Mon Feb 25 04:36:23 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 27-Feb-85 02:15:36 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.ARPA Organization: University of California at Berkeley Lines: 43 From: Richard Garland Today I finally got around to upgrading our 780 to VMS V4.0. Our 730 has been running for a month OK so I figured it was time. The upgrade proceded smoothly till the system had to reboot the first time, and this failed with the message: BOOT-F-Unable to find BOOT file after trying a few times with same result, I booted the disk from the regular rooted directory which still had my version 3 system (I said "B DB0" instead of "B" from the console.) The old system actually came up and I found that the new system directory was munged. i.e. I checked the files in [SYSF.SYSEXE] and the system said illegal directory file. I couldn't do DUMP/HEADER because the upgrade had deleted DUMP along with other "unimportant" files. The other directories in [SYSF.] were OK, ie [SYSF.SYSLIB], [SYSF.SYSHLP] etc. At this point I gave up and brought back my old system (god bless removable disks). Now what funny thing did I do to bring this on? - I do think the upgrade works since I did it on the 730. Well while I was waiting for VMSINSTAL to chug away I was snooping around from another terminal and I noticed that my dump file hasn't been resized in about 3 years - it's 2 megabytes too small. I said "what the heck - why not delete the whole thing since it's not doing any good anyway". (my microVAX runs without a dump file fine and other version 3 machines also do fine. You just can't send a big tape with an SPR to DEC). I did delete it and figured it wouldn't really go away till next reboot. Soon thereafter the upgrade got to the reboot and failed as I explained. Now the question: Was the upgrade failure (the corruption of the upgrade system directory [SYSF]SYSEXE.DIR) due to my deleting the dump file from the "current" system directory ([SYS0.SYSEXE]), or was this a coincidence? Do I need a dump file on the system to do a successful upgrade? Does such a dump file have to be the right size or can I make it 1 block? Any help will be appreciated since I will be trying again next saturday. Rg -------