Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site bbncca.ARPA Path: utzoo!decvax!bbncca!msimpson From: msimpson@bbncca.ARPA (Mike Simpson) Newsgroups: mod.motss Subject: I may be gay, BUT ... Message-ID: <1326@bbncca.ARPA> Date: Fri, 15-Feb-85 12:59:23 EST Article-I.D.: bbncca.1326 Posted: Fri Feb 15 12:59:23 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 16-Feb-85 00:11:08 EST Organization: Bolt, Beranek and Newman, Cambridge, Ma. Lines: 56 Approved: for sdyer@bbncca.uucp by msimpson@bbncca.uucp -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- Has anyone out there encountered this form of self-oppression? I was writing a letter this letter to a friend and I think I realized something. I have these two versions of what being gay is. There's MY version and THEIR version. THEIR version is the evil wicked stereotype of gays: selfish, unnatural, perverted, sick, impotent, ineffective, immature, shunned, unhappy. My version (equally a stereotype of sorts) has being gay as the enlightened, equally attractive alternative: witty, sophisticated, objective, compassionate, helpful, understanding, enteraining. Both versions have large gray areas; they even overlap. What does it really mean to be gay? If I'm gay, does that mean I have to enjoy giving head? If I don't, does that mean I haven't completely owned up to my gay identity? For a long time in college I was consoled by the fact that, Well, I may be gay BUT I don't do this or I don't do that. After being pushed into a few experiences (:-) that had to be amended to, Well, I may be gay BUT *I* don't enjoy doing this (or having that done to me). You see, I felt comfortable being gay as long as I was MY gay, not THEIR gay. The problem is, I don't know exactly what it is that I might do that would push me over the edge from MY nice clean gay, to their ugly dirty gay. In college, a few things were moved from THEIR gay to MY gay. Chiefly, I could not only lust for guys, I could have sex with them. Now this wasn't totally true. It wasn't always the most mutually self-respecting sex around. Sort of like, who wants too really get to know a sicko (that would apply to each of us). I'd like to think that I'm past that stage. I know one thing that's definitely a positive affirmation of one's gay identity. That's being involved in a fulfilling relationship that's good for BOTH of you. I see that as the final step. I mean, if that's not gay, what is? This was one of the problems I had with Consenting Adult. Jeff seemed to have so little trouble coming to terms with himself. I'm not putting down the film; it served a useful purpose for its straight audience. What I didn't like was that Jeff met his lover within what seemed to be 9 months of coming out to his mom. Wow! We should all be so lucky. If anyone has any clues on how I could go about developing a greater respect for gay people in general (without becoming adamantly obnoxious to all my straight friend's well-meaning, unintentional oppressive acts) . . . . then Drop Me A Line. Another Soul On The Threshold from Robert DeBenenedictis ...!linus!rjd -- >> don't shoot me, I'm just trying to be helpful ... << Mike Simpson, BBN msimpson@bbnccf (Arpanet/Internet/CSNet) {decvax,ihnp4,ima,linus,masscomp,sunybcs,wjh12}!bbncca!msimpson (Usenet) 617-497-2819 (Ma Bell)