Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2.fluke 9/24/84; site fluke.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!ssc-vax!fluke!tonjon From: tonjon@fluke.UUCP (Tony Johnson) Newsgroups: net.analog Subject: Re: "Just Wrap" Message-ID: <405@vax2.fluke.UUCP> Date: Tue, 26-Feb-85 16:39:36 EST Article-I.D.: vax2.405 Posted: Tue Feb 26 16:39:36 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 1-Mar-85 05:36:48 EST References: <195@ihlpg.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA Lines: 50 > Does anybody have experience with a wire-wrapping tool called "Just Wrap?" > It's a hand tool with a wire-wrap bit on one end and a spool of 30 AWG wire > on the other. Supposedly, it lets you wire-wrap without cutting, stripping > or inserting the wire in the end. That would be nice, but is it really > easy to use, and does it make good circuits? > > I've been using pre-cut wrapping wire from Digi-key, which is expensive, > but a real work-saver. However, it would be nice just to use bulk wire > without all that cutting and stripping. > /_\_ > > Bob Fishell > ihnp4!ihlpg!fish I've used 'just wrap' for TTL projects I've made. You can use standard Kynar wire with the tool. The trick is that you have to use the square post sockets as the corners of the pins provide the needed edge to break the wire insulation as you wrap. This means you have to resort to putting everything into sockets (even discrete components) or using some other method of connecting stuff that you can't get into wire wrap sockets (soldering or using regular wire wrap). My (minimal) experience has been positive for digital stuff. The neat thing about just wrap is that it allows you to 'daisy chain' pins together without having to cut a new piece of wire. So if you have a bunch of inputs that go to ground, you can tie them all low in short order with a single wire...a real time saver. I don't have any idea how it is for analog circuitry (I wire-to-wire solder my analog projects). You can get 'just wrap' kits from most of the mail order suppliers (Digi-Key, Jameco, etc.). Another similar interconnect technology is marketed by Robinson- Nugent. They have boards with holes for dip ICs on one side and little two-tine 'forks' on the other. You take Kynar and push it down between the blade of the the forks which cut through the insulation to make contact with the wire. Like just wrap, this system allows one to 'daisy chain' wire. The time it takes to actually make a connection is a fraction of what it takes with any of the wrapping stuff, although I personally don't believe it's as reliable as traditional wire wrap or just wrap. It's more expensive, but you don't have to buy wire wrap sockets. We use Robinson Nugent extensively at work. We've also had wires 'pop out' if the tech didn't push them down hard enough, and it's a real bear to try and find an open in the maze of wires you create. The larger the project, the worse it becomes. If your careful, you probably won't have too much trouble. Hope this will be of some help. Tony Johnson John Fluke Mfg. Co. Inc. Everett, WA