Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83 based; site hound.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!houxm!hound!rfg From: rfg@hound.UUCP (R.GRANTGES) Newsgroups: net.audio Subject: Re: How to evaluate speakers Message-ID: <937@hound.UUCP> Date: Wed, 20-Feb-85 23:03:38 EST Article-I.D.: hound.937 Posted: Wed Feb 20 23:03:38 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 22-Feb-85 09:27:44 EST References: <967@ihuxn.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ Lines: 37 [] Walt, that idea of multiple speakers interfering with each other has been shot down time and again on this net. You have been sold a bill of goods by a dealer. Your ideas about what to look for are sound, in my opinion, but not necessarily workable for two reasons. First, real musicians, by which I mean musically oriented people knowledgeable about the art are able to listen for what you recommend right THRU the sound, however badly it is reproduced. They know what to listen for and are able to commune with the composer. Ithink they hear in their imaginations more than thru their ears. This is the reason that musicians often have really awful lo-fi stereos. If someone has told them that outfit x is good, ok, they'l buy it. But left to their own, they will be happy with very little. Second reason is that to the people who do not qualify under my first reason, it takes a pretty good system before you can begin to hear the instruments from the mush. If you don't know what to listen you may easily be carried away by neat sounding mush. For example, highly resonant reproduction - I mean with many peaks and valleys in the curve (vs freq) tends to sound much more ...alive, lively, with it, forward ...etc. than flat, non-resonant reproduction when listened to for short periods. Even one emphasized portion of the spectrum can make a speaker sound "better" on short acquaintance. Perhaps one way to implement what you suggest is to take some well received recording (one known to be very good) of, say, a large orchestra playing something dense. See if you can follow different instruments through the passage work on successive playings, or do many tend to get submerged in the mush so you lose them. That's a test of definition failed by a lot of cheap speakers, and one that I would suppose would have to be passed before one could hope to commune with the composer - unless you already knew the piece cold anyway. -- "It's the thought, if any, that counts!" Dick Grantges hound!rfg