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From: lrd@drusd.UUCP (DuBroffLR)
Newsgroups: net.auto
Subject: Re: Dodge Charger? (Actually: Cooling turbos)
Message-ID: <1241@drusd.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 27-Feb-85 17:30:31 EST
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Posted: Wed Feb 27 17:30:31 1985
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>	"As I recall, Chrysler uses a water-cooled turbo in its cars.
>	That's why it can offer the 5/50 guarantee on it without
>	going broke again."
>
>				John Ruschmeyer
>
>Mr. Ruschmeyer's statement that Chrysler "can" offer a 5/50 guarantee
>implies that Chrysler has a choice.  It is my understanding that Chrysler
>**MUST** offer this guarantee in order to sell the cars legally in this
>country, per EPA mandate that major components whose failure would cause
>the vehicle to fail to meet emission/pollution standards **MUST** be covered
>by the vehicle manufacturer with a (minimum) 5/50 warranty, even if the rest
>of the vehicle has a lesser warranty.
>
>This emission warranty covers (among other things) turbochargers, carburetors,
>fuel injection systems, catalytic converters, and certain components of the
>ignition system.
>

>>	"The emission warranty does not cover the turbo! If this was true,
>>	why don't GM, Ford, Toyota, Saab, etc. offer the same warranty on
>>	their turbo? I don't think anyone else offers 50K miles on thier
>>	turbo."
>>
>>			Brian Millham

Mr. Millham states, emphatically, that "the emission warranty does not
cover the turbo!"  I maintain that turbo failure will cause vehicle
emissions that do NOT meet EPA requirements; therefore, "GM, Ford,
Toyota, Saab, etc." MUST treat turbo failure as an emission warranty
item.  Mr. Millham, I see by your "From" line that you work at ATT Denver.
If you would like to contact me (x3532), I can introduce you to one of
my co-workers who was recently reimbursed for the cost of a new turbo by
Volvo when his turbo ate its own bearings at just under 50,000 miles.
The specific reason for the reimbursement was "emission warranty" --
even though the general vehicle warranty had expired!