Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site terak.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcs!lsuc!pesnta!hplabs!hao!noao!terak!doug From: doug@terak.UUCP (Doug Pardee) Newsgroups: net.aviation Subject: Re: Flap Flap Message-ID: <380@terak.UUCP> Date: Mon, 18-Feb-85 13:49:51 EST Article-I.D.: terak.380 Posted: Mon Feb 18 13:49:51 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 20-Feb-85 08:44:04 EST References: <235@tekred.UUCP> Organization: Terak Corporation, Scottsdale, AZ, USA Lines: 30 Boy, is this gonna bring out a wide variety of answers!! While everyone discusses the routine aspects, I'll comment on some seldom-mentioned points. First, using full flaps in some planes results in a hopelessly narrow zone between touching down with the nose too low, and either stalling or just "running out of elevator". Very-low-wing planes like the Mooney and the Comanche are most prone to this. To achieve a flared attitude in a Mooney with full flaps, you are forcing all of the air being displaced by the underside of the wing to try to go through the couple-inch-wide slit between the trailing edge of the flaps and the ground. For my second point, a true story about a CFI friend. He was giving lessons in a 150, and the manoeuver in question was a forced landing. After the student had the emergency field "made", my friend put in the throttle and flipped the flap switch to "up". All of the preceding is totally routine. But... the flap fuse blew, leaving 40 degrees of flaps. Now a 150 with full flaps doesn't want to climb anyway, but this was with an outside temp of 105F. He did find the spare fuse in time, but a solo pilot wouldn't have. But wait, there's more... Some high-wing planes are laid out such that with the flaps down the doors won't open. Think about the ramifications of a survivable forced landing where the battery didn't make it. Not that flaps are your only problem -- the frame could have gotten bent, preventing the door from opening. As for me, I never use flaps. But that's because I don't have any :-) -- Doug Pardee -- Terak Corp. -- !{hao,ihnp4,decvax}!noao!terak!doug