Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles $Revision: 1.6.2.17 $; site uiucdcs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!cbdkc1!desoto!cord!ihnp1!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!mcewan From: mcewan@uiucdcs.UUCP Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: Re: Sean McLinden on authority and b Message-ID: <36200189@uiucdcs.UUCP> Date: Thu, 14-Feb-85 12:43:00 EST Article-I.D.: uiucdcs.36200189 Posted: Thu Feb 14 12:43:00 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 16-Feb-85 04:48:12 EST References: <249@cadre.UUCP> Lines: 27 Nf-ID: #R:cadre:-24900:uiucdcs:36200189:000:1130 Nf-From: uiucdcs!mcewan Feb 14 11:43:00 1985 >In article <467@pyuxd.UUCP> rlr@pyuxd.UUCP writes: >>>>... It does help at >>>>times to look at our own beliefs without the cloud of religion/ideolgy/etc. >>>>that each of us has acquired over the years, thanx to our parents/teachers/ >>>>friends/etc., which I'd term as an unseen form of "brainwashing" -- strong, >>>>gradual, but very potent. [RAMANATHAN] >> >>> You might call it "brainwashing", but it isn't, and the use of that >>> term is an example of the inflammatory rhetoric you claimed that you >>> wished to avoid. [McLINDEN] >> >>It may be "inflammatory" to say so, but it *is* brainwashing nonetheless. >[Rosen] > >brainwashing - a forcible indoctrination to induce someone to GIVE UP >basic political, social, or religious beliefs and attitudes and to >accept contrasting regimented ideas. [Webster's New Collegiate] That's definition 1. You left out "2. persuation by propaganda or salesmanship". While you've got the dictionary in front of you, why not look up the words "lie" and "dishonest". Scott McEwan {ihnp4,pur-ee}!uiucdcs!mcewan "Uh oh. Looks like we got a 666 down there - deity on a rampage."