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From: brower@fortune.UUCP (Richard Brower)
Newsgroups: net.flame,net.politics
Subject: Re: American(?) Music Awards <<FLAME>>
Message-ID: <5027@fortune.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 19-Feb-85 20:23:06 EST
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Posted: Tue Feb 19 20:23:06 1985
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Reply-To: brower@fortune.UUCP (Richard brower)
Organization: Fortune Systems, Redwood City, CA
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Summary: 

In article <143@cci-bdc.UUCP> larry@cci-bdc.UUCP (Larry DeLuca) writes:
>helen keller was in a worse spot and look at all she accomplished...

She had lots of free publicity after being the first person, with her
disabilities, to be able to communicate at all.  But some teacher made
alot of sacrafices for her before she learned anything.

>i'm gay and i resent affirmative action.  i wouldn't want a job because
>i was a faggot.

Well, as another faggot, I don't think that I will bring up the fact that
I am a faggot until after I am employed.  However, once it is out I do
not wish to thrown out either, and if I am terminated for being gay, I'm
going to go to court.  But alot of gay folk out on the streets don't have
the advantages that I do (able to blend in) and get laughed out of personel
offices before they can submit their qualifications.

Similarly, there were policies in many corporations in the past (and
probabally would still be except for the passage of strict Civil Rights
legislation, and may still) like 'This company doesn't hire
blacks/women/married women/jews/gays'.  And if it takes a law and a
cop to change these policies, bring on the boys in blue.

>i know people who go out looking to be oppressed.  they usually do
>get harrassed, but it's mostly because they're so obnoxious.

Right!  Obnoxious means holding hands in public (I've been harrassed
for that obnoxious thing)?  Or dressing in women's clothes (I know
alot of TS's).  Or being black is obnoxious enough in some places.

>blacks and women and martians should be given extra special
>treatment are people who have all the comforts of home around 
>them.  a position where it's easy to look down on 'whitey' and
>make him pay (saves you having to dump into the till).

Nope, it is those of us who 'have all the comforts of home' who
should look out for the interests who 'ain't got nothing'.  Sometimes
that means dipping into my pocket, sometimes it means participating
in a riot, sometimes it means putting up with a little inconvenience.
That's life in the jungle.
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Richard A. Brower		Fortune Systems
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