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From: gjk@talcott.UUCP (Greg Kuperberg)
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Subject: Re: Re: White greed
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Date: Mon, 18-Feb-85 22:28:25 EST
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> Gordon, if you read carefully, you will see that you are misinterpreting
> the citation.  He did not say whites inherit guilt, he said whites inherit
> material benefits.
> 
> Nor does he say that every white individual has inherited these benefits.
> You're putting the words of a fallacy of argument into his mouth.
> 
> However, it is extremely likely that each of us has so benefited.  I've
> benefitted: I went to a good school district.  Compare the average quality
> of public school educations available to blacks with that available to whites.
> That is an example of persisting social injustice.  There is a large Catch-22
> category of social injustice that I say becomes the fault of each succeeding
> generation that refuses to work to abolish it.  Much like the slaveholder
> that says "why should I take the loss incurred by freeing my slaves when it
> was my father who bought them?"  It's easy to blame other and previous
> generations to try to hide your own selfish interests.
> -- 
> 
> Mike Huybensz		...decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!cybvax0!mrh

Oh, yeah, well I went to the SAME school district as the blacks in my town;
there is only one school district in my town.  And I sat in front of the
same blackboards at the same time as did my black friends, and while I paid
attention, many of them did not.  And while I made a reasonable attempt at
doing homework, many of them did not.  And while I made a reasonable grade,
many of them did not.  However, concerned that there should be a
disproportionate number blacks in the lower grades, the board of education
let them go on to the next grade with a minimum of real education.  Good
vs. bad schools is not the problem in my town.

Now the question remains, am I benefitting from this?  No.  My education
was not in the least improved by my irresponsible classmates.  It's not my
fault that they have messed-up values and goals.  It's because their
parents are poor, which is in turn due to discriminatory laws that were
around before I came to this country.
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			Greg Kuperberg
		     harvard!talcott!gjk

"I believe that Ronald Reagan can make this country what it once was:  an
Arctic wasteland, covered with ice." -Steve Martin