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From: geb@cadre.UUCP
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Subject: Re: White greed
Message-ID: <325@cadre.ARPA>
Date: Mon, 18-Feb-85 09:11:38 EST
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Posted: Mon Feb 18 09:11:38 1985
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Reply-To: geb@cadre.ARPA (Gordon E. Banks)
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Summary: 

In article <6545@rochester.UUCP> gary@rochester.UUCP (Gary Cottrell) writes:

>Come on, man! Use your head. Such anecdotal information ("well, my brother
>Ferd hasn't benefited...") doesn't prove anything. What michael is talking
>about can be proven *statistically*: Black people are still feeling the 
>effects of 300 years of discrimination. Try looking at the unemployment rates
>for Black teenagers sometime. This is a *societal* problem, that needs broad-
>based solutions before it can be corrected.
>
Prove it then!  How does the fact that black teenagers are unemployed
prove that all or even most whites are benefitting from that!  Who is
paying their welfare.  I agree some whites (and some blacks) who are
usually union members benefit from the minimun wage being what it is.
That is probably the major contributor to black teenage unemployment.
Before there was a minimum wage, this disparity was very slight, but
when you tell someone he can't hire a person for less than $3.50/hr
and the person can't do $3.50's worth of work, then he isn't
going to hire that person.  A lot of white teenagers get their
jobs through personal connections, since they aren't worth it either.

No one has answered my argument that
Canada is doing about as well as we are but had no slaves, and few
blacks.  Who's back did they achieve their success on (please don't
say the Quebequois)?  Slavery has damaged this country economically
and morally.  It was used by a small minority in order to prolong
an archaic agriculturally-based culture which had long outgrown
its usefulness.  The present state of so many blacks is the result
not only of slavery and jim crow, but of misguided social welfare 
policies since the 1930s which have encouraged the breaking up of 
black families and mass migration to the cities.  I am here referring
to economic policies, not civil rights policies.  I believe that
for them to be truly recognized as equals, not only by society,
but in their own minds, they must compete for
jobs, etc. on the same basis as everyone else, not on the basis
with handicapped, etc., i.e. affirmative action quotas.