Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site reed.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcs!lsuc!pesnta!hplabs!tektronix!reed!ellen From: ellen@reed.UUCP (Ellen Eades) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.flame Subject: Re: Re: White greed Message-ID: <959@reed.UUCP> Date: Tue, 19-Feb-85 18:20:35 EST Article-I.D.: reed.959 Posted: Tue Feb 19 18:20:35 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 22-Feb-85 01:12:50 EST References: <170@nybcb.UUCP> <6545@rochester.UUCP> Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon Lines: 32 Xref: utcs net.politics:7486 net.flame:8097 > > WRONG!!!!! > > Not all white Americans have benefited from slavery. > > I haven't received any inheritance from anyone, nor do I see how I have > > benefited from slavery. My ancestors came from Ireland in the early 1900's. > > They did not benefit from slavery either. So much for your simple fact & > > your "inteligent debate". I think the problem here lies in the attempt to attribute individual guilt to what is a societal problem. It does no good to say that any one individual didn't benefit from slavery and therefore need not assist those other individuals whose ancestors suffered under it; the same goes for other redress issues, i.e. the question of redress for Japanese-American who were interned during WWII. Although it may be true on an individual basis that one is not responsible nor descended from those responsible, it is also true on a general basis that, *generally* speaking, the present, *generally* higher, income/class/position/opportunities of the white majority in America is a result of the *general* oppression of minority groups in the past. The next question is, do we take a Libertarian approach and say no individual should redress the wrongs of a group he happens to belong to, or a more universalistic attitude that wrongs should be righted as soon as possible even if some individual rights are abrogated in the process, as long as the intent is to restore the balance quickly. I'm sorry if this is getting bombastic, but I felt I had to set the problem out. I would like to hope that most Americans in this land of opportunity are willing to see an across-the-board attempt to equalize the situation. I may be wrong. Ellen