Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site ssc-vax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxb!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!ssc-vax!esco From: esco@ssc-vax.UUCP (Michael Esco) Newsgroups: net.taxes,net.singles,net.flame Subject: Re: Marriage penalty Message-ID: <445@ssc-vax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 21-Feb-85 21:26:16 EST Article-I.D.: ssc-vax.445 Posted: Thu Feb 21 21:26:16 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 27-Feb-85 03:37:23 EST References: <285@calmasd.UUCP> <429@ssc-vax.UUCP> <2490@tekig.UUCP> Organization: Boeing Aerospace Co., Seattle, WA Lines: 31 Xref: watmath net.taxes:723 net.singles:5963 net.flame:8527 > > There is no such thing as a marriage penalty. The penalty is against single > > people, and has been for as long as I've been paying taxes. > > > > Michael Esco > > Boeing Aerospace > > You say there is no marriage penalty, however, if I were just living > with a friend, the total tax paid by the two would be less than if > the two were married. So what is the variable here? MARRIAGE!! > > Dave Hayes > Tektronix Don't get me wrong folks, I'm not defending our (in the US) tax structure. But most people in this country must like it or else it would be replaced. If people want a progressive tax, they should be willing to live with it. I don't like progressive taxes, but I like even less to hear people whine about how unfair it is to *them*. I especially dislike hearing them say they want to eliminate the "Marriage Penalty" by raising the single rate in relation to the married one: don't penalize me for *really* being single. I think the major sticking point in this debate is terminology. Should unmarried couples living together be called (and taxed as) singles? Let's call them posslq's (and tax them appropriately). Don't complain about a marrige penalty-complain about the posslq loophole. Michael Esco Boeing Aerospace PS- I believe the IRS looks upon divorces for tax purposes about the way the INS views marriages of convenience.