Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 11/03/84 (WLS Mods); site fisher.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!princeton!astrovax!fisher!david From: david@fisher.UUCP (David Rubin) Newsgroups: net.games.pbm Subject: Re: Diplomacy game spring 1901 Message-ID: <539@fisher.UUCP> Date: Thu, 21-Feb-85 08:48:39 EST Article-I.D.: fisher.539 Posted: Thu Feb 21 08:48:39 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 26-Feb-85 04:09:14 EST References: <95@rti-sel.UUCP> Organization: Princeton University Department of Statistics Lines: 80 > Austria > Budapest -> Serbia > Vienna -> Budapest > Trieste -> Albania See comments under Italy. > England > Edinburgh -> Norwegian Sea > London -> North Sea > Liverpool -> Edinburgh England has agreed to a nonagression pact with France, and fully expects France to keep it (at least in the near future). Her position remains elastic. > France > Paris -> Burgundy > Marseilles -> Spain > Brest -> Mid-Atlantic France trusted Germany not to invade Burgundy in 1901, but evidently will trust the Germans no further. France probably will press for English support of or German concession to French claims in Belgium. > Germany > Berlin -> Kiel > Kiel -> Holland > Munich holds Germany evidently will be satisfied with the gain of two centers. If that was so, why didn't they order Kiel -> Denmark, thus allowing effective retaliation for Russian perfidy? Though tactically in the poorest position (apparently the only power without a "friend"), well timed offers (support into Sweden for England, into Belgium for France) may create favorable conditions for a "Drang nach Osten". England would likely be satisfied with such an arrangement; French diplomacy might still seek to incite London against Berlin (the French tend to be most jealous of English understandings with third parties). > Italy > Venice -> Trieste > Rome -> Apulia > Naples -> Ionian The dangerous early stab of Austria---or is it? The concurrent move to Apulia raises the possibility of A Apu -> Tun, F Ion C A Apu -> Tun, A Tri -> Alb, build F Nap, and an Austro-Italian alliance has a strong attack on Turkey with every Italian unit in a position to effect the outcome in the East. > Russia > Warsaw -> Silesia > St. Pete -> Gulf of Bothnia > Sevastopol -> Black Sea (Failed due to turkey) > Moscow -> Ukraine Russia would not simultaneously attack Germany and Turkey, ergo the stand-off in the Black Sea was prearranged. However, the Russians have not yet tipped their hand as to whether they will side with Constantinople or Vienna in the future. > Turkey > Ankara -> Black Sea (Failed due to russia) > Constantinople -> Bulgaria > Smyrna -> Constantinople Turkey wishes to ally with Russia, but isn't TOO trusting. If she succeeds in gaining that alliance, and Italy is allied with Austria, she will be at a disadvantage compared to the fully integrated forces of the hostile alliance. On the other hand, she will not be so subject to a devastating stab as the Austrians. Overall, an interesting set of moves. Austria is at substantial risk, but has much to gain, too. Given the lack of German ambition for three centers, the failure to order Kiel to Denmark was a tactical error without any rationale. Every other country has reasonable prospects and are at minimal immediate risk. David Rubin