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From: ray@utcsri.UUCP (Raymond Allen)
Newsgroups: net.games.rogue
Subject: Re: Rust Monster
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Date: Tue, 26-Feb-85 13:13:03 EST
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> 
> Just 'cause I've never contributed to this group before...
> 
> 	I wouldn't use a scroll of genocide on rust monsters.  Two
> reasons:
> 
> 	1. It's too rare and good to waste on wimpy monsters like
> 	   rust monsters.  Use it on something nastier.
> 
> 	2. Rust monsters are worth better than average experience points
> 	   for moderately early monsters, and they're easy ones at that.
> 	   If you genocide them, you don't get the chance to collect.
> 
> Use the leather armor (non-rustable) on the early levels and hope for a
> protect armor for your better suits before you get too deep.
> 
> - Gary Johnston
> 
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	Unfortunately Mr. Johnson has described an impossible scenario
for the standard versions of rogue anyway (3.6)(5.2)(5.3).

	Versions 3.6 and 5.2 have genocide scrolls but no protect armor
scrolls.  Version 5.3 has protect armor scrolls but no genocide scrolls.
So, unfortunately, "You can't genocide your rust monsters and protect your
armor too" (:-)).

	As a further note, the only possible use of a wand of cancellation
on a Medusa (v5.3) or Umber Hulk (v3.6 and v5.2) is to cancel it *before*
you can actually see it (this can only happen if you have previously
quaffed a potion of monster detection).  Once you see the nasty it will
either confuse you or it won't (depending upon the luck of your saving throw
against magic?).  Using the cancellation at this point is useless.  There
has even been some disagreement in the past about whether cancellation is
at all effective against such monsters.  I've never had a chance to check
this out myself.

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				Ray Allen
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