Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site brl-tgr.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!bellcore!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!brl-tgr!wmartin From: wmartin@brl-tgr.ARPA (Will Martin ) Newsgroups: net.games.trivia Subject: Re: Phonetic Alphabets Message-ID: <8364@brl-tgr.ARPA> Date: Wed, 20-Feb-85 16:17:56 EST Article-I.D.: brl-tgr.8364 Posted: Wed Feb 20 16:17:56 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 26-Feb-85 08:21:11 EST References: <365@wnuxb.UUCP> Organization: USAMC ALMSA Lines: 63 > I know of two phonetic alphabets. One begins ABLE, BAKER, CHARLIE ... > The second is of military origin and begins ALPHA, BRAVO, CHARLIE, DELTA > > Can someone complete the alphabets ? Are there other similar alphabets > in common use ? > > Larry Johnson > ihnp4!wnuxb!laj The first phonetic alphabet referred to is the old one, used from I-don't-know-when up until the sixties (or late 50's). The second is the NATO phonetic alphabet: Alfa Bravo Charlie Delta Echo Foxtrot Golf Hotel India Juliet Kilo Lima (pronounced lee-ma) Mike November Oscar Papa Quebec (pronounced kay-bec) Romeo Sierra Tango Uniform Victor Whisky X-ray Yankee Zulu I might be able to find the old one listed somewhere, but don't expect it soon. I taught myself the new one, so overlaid any pre-existing knowledge of the former. There are an infinity of "unofficial" phonetic alphabets; probably each police department uses a local variant, the same way as they use local formats of radio codes. Every ham operator picks his own phonetic interpretation of his callsign, so you might hear W1FMS identify as "Wants One For My Shack" or W7LLW use "Wilbur-Seven Likes Lotta Women" or anything at all. (I made up those callsigns off the top of my head -- are you out there by chance?) I strongly recommend that everyone learn and use the NATO standard, but then I champion a lot of lost causes... It's interesting how confused your average telephone operator gets when you start phoneticizing a name at him/her. They can get "B as in Boy", but running "Whisky India Lima Lima India Alfa Mike" at them scares them... Regards, Will Martin USENET: seismo!brl-bmd!wmartin or ARPA/MILNET: wmartin@almsa-1.ARPA