Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mit-eddie.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!mit-eddie!barry From: barry@mit-eddie.UUCP (Mikki Barry) Newsgroups: net.kids Subject: Re: "Discipline," again Message-ID: <3706@mit-eddie.UUCP> Date: Wed, 27-Feb-85 10:14:22 EST Article-I.D.: mit-eddi.3706 Posted: Wed Feb 27 10:14:22 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 1-Mar-85 08:10:51 EST References: <322@cadre.ARPA> <3654@mit-eddie.UUCP> <943@gloria.UUCP> Organization: MIT, Cambridge, MA Lines: 24 I will stand by my previous statement "Karate teaches discipline". Many who disagree have never attended a karate class, especially a class of children. And, contrary to some people's belief, we do NOT teach discipline by smacking the kids. We don't touch them except to demonstrate technique and they are NEVER hurt by the instructors (at least at our school). There is a huge difference between respect for a teacher, and fear of one. Self-confidence is a large part of self-defense training. If a student is too busy cowering from fear of the instructor, he/she won't learn a damn thing. Our classes teach both physical, and mental discipline. Muscles are developed along with the mind. How to get out of fighting, how to get along with schoolmates, how to avoid dangerous situations, how to (and what to) scream if presented with danger are all part of the discipline we teach our students. So before taking a bad view of modern karate training (or kickboxing/combat self-defense which is what I teach), go to a reputable school with a children's class and WATCH the interaction. The kids learn to respect instructors, each other, and themselves. And that is a worthwhile lesson these days. Mikki Barry Black Belt/Instructor