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From: colonel@gloria.UUCP (Col. G. L. Sicherman)
Newsgroups: net.kids
Subject: Re: "Discipline," again
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Date: Mon, 25-Feb-85 11:12:35 EST
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Posted: Mon Feb 25 11:12:35 1985
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["Would you want to eat a doormat that ate bark and fungus?"]

> I know that this is not the case with every parent, but I have seen
> many try to shift the responsibility for discipline of their child to
> teachers.  Even though my class (karate) is supposed to teach
> discipline, I often find parents asking me to take care of their
> child's reading problem, sibling problems, classmate problems, etc.  I
> even had one ask me to smack their kid for them because of the child
> being unruly in the car on the way to class.

Karate supposed to teach discipline!  That sounds like a figment of
pedagogical mythology.

When applied to kids, "discipline" means one of two things:

	1. Do what I tell you, not what you want to do.
	2. Beating kids for not doing what you tell them.

Major premise: you can learn discipline only from a truly disciplined
	person.
Minor premise: a truly disciplined person does not teach discipline.
Conclusion: ???

	"If you beat children for pleasure, avow your object
	frankly, and play the game according to the rules, as
	a fox-hunter does ... No foxhunter is such a cad as
	to pretend that he hunts the fox to teach it not to
	steal chickens ... "
				G. B. Shaw (1903)
-- 
Col. G. L. Sicherman
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