Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site redwood.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcs!lsuc!pesnta!amdcad!fortune!redwood!rpw3 From: rpw3@redwood.UUCP (Rob Warnock) Newsgroups: net.lang Subject: Re: Orphaned Response Message-ID: <170@redwood.UUCP> Date: Fri, 22-Feb-85 08:28:32 EST Article-I.D.: redwood.170 Posted: Fri Feb 22 08:28:32 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 22-Feb-85 17:14:24 EST References: <1982@inmet.UUCP> Organization: [Consultant], Foster City, CA Lines: 34 +--------------- | I've got to agree. Despite the many bad things which | legitmately be said about it, there are occasions when | Basic is the language of choice: e.g., little interactive | tools with a short lifetime of use, quick hacks for | microcomputers, etc. | Ben Krepp | {ihnp4,harpo,ima}!inmet!benk +--------------- I disagree. [Should this be in net.religion.lang?] On the PDP-8, PDP-10, and PDP-11 my choice was FOCAL. [Richie Lary, where are you?] FOCAL ran nicely on a 4K PDP-8 and included intra-line editing of programs (FOCAL/F [Doug Wrege] took 8K and added a bunch of real-time and operating system hooks). A full-functioned PDP-10 version [mine] was also 4K words, though 36-bit instead of 12-bit words. Under UNIX, my choice is Bourne Shell! (...given the usual UNIX utility commands.) Of course, if there's a lot of demand, I'd be glad to do a FOCAL in C. ;-} Actually, what we probably should do in UNIX land is create "hoc7", which would add interactive editing of functions to K & P's "hoc6". (Yes, "hoc6" already allows you to "edit" by retyping the whole function -- I'm referring to provisions for loading/listing/editing/saving function definitions. It probably should call an external editor -- in fact, "$EDITOR"!) Rob Warnock Systems Architecture Consultant UUCP: {ihnp4,ucbvax!dual}!fortune!redwood!rpw3 DDD: (415)572-2607 USPS: 510 Trinidad Lane, Foster City, CA 94404