Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!godot!ima!johnl From: johnl@ima.UUCP Newsgroups: net.lang.c Subject: Re: C cross compiler Message-ID: <484@ima.UUCP> Date: Tue, 19-Feb-85 23:37:46 EST Article-I.D.: ima.484 Posted: Tue Feb 19 23:37:46 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 22-Feb-85 21:41:58 EST Lines: 26 Nf-ID: #R:brl-tgr:-813700:ima:10100009:000:1522 Nf-From: ima!johnl Feb 19 22:58:00 1985 >> Oh, like, wow. Are there still 360/20s around? >[followed by derogatory comments about the 360/20 instruction set] >I fail to see the purpose in responding to someone's request for >information in this manner. Do you really think that several hundred >thousand dollars, or a few million dollars, worth of equipment is going to >be thrown away every time someone comes up with something new? I think the >name for this kind of attitude is "snobbery." I think some people are a little touchy. I have nothing against the 360/20 -- it was fun to program. But the /20 was designed twenty years ago. It was made of discrete transistors and core memory. There is newer stuff in glass cases in the Computer Museum. I really am amazed if somewhere there is still a /20 in production use. For the cost of power and maintenance alone, it'd likely be cheaper to throw the 20 away and replace it, perhaps with a System/36 if the software is mostly RPG or a PC XT/370 if it's in assembler. The /20 was a minimal CPU onto which you could hang some decent peripherals, like a 1000 LPM train printer. But it's dumb -- less cpu power than an 8080, and with typically 4K or 8K of memory, not much room to maneuver. Writing a C compiler for this fine antique would be a tour de force, but it's hard to imagine why one would even try. John Levine, ima!johnl, Levine@YALE.ARPA PS: If you want to get rid of your 20, perhaps the Computer Museum would take it for its collection -- it's a little weak in PDP-8 era IBMery.