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From: tjs@cbdkc1.UUCP ( Tom Stanions)
Newsgroups: net.med
Subject: medical *PROOF* ???
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Date: Fri, 15-Feb-85 12:57:21 EST
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Posted: Fri Feb 15 12:57:21 1985
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       Here is my question, What is medical proof?  Some of you	say
       that Vitamin B17	is not a vitamin because there is no
       *medical	proof* that it is required by the body.	 Webster
       defines a vitamin as an organic substance that is required
       by the body but does not	provide	energy or serve	as a
       building	block.	Someone	seems to have added to that
       definition that the lack	of this	substance must produce a
       disease which has a name	given to it by the medical
       community.  Is there proof that the absence of Vitamin B17
       does not	cause a	disease?  Or do	we have	to kill	a couple
       hundred animals to prove	that monkees may or may	not require
       it (this	is not an attempt to draw on emotion, only to
       suggest a possible answer).

       Do doctors admit	that they understand the complexity of the
       human organism and can therefore	say that B17 is	not needed?
       You say that "believers"	have offered no	*proof*	that
       appears in medical journals.  I have had	no trouble finding
       people who will say that	B17 helped them	in non-medical
       articles, do we discredit then because the Amer.	Cancer
       Assoc. didn't want to tell their	story. Is there	anyone who
       hasn't read about or know about someone who was sent home to
       die because medical science couldn't help them and is today
       telling others how "un-proven" methods saved their lives.

       How many	people still smoke marijuana and say that is is
       alright because there is	no *proof* that	it is harmful.	If
       we have *proof* that cigarette smoking is harmful why does
       the warning label only say may be harmful.

       I don't need medical proof to take care of myself thank you.
       If something works then that is proof enough for	me.  Of
       course just because something worked for	somebody else
       dosen't mean that it is right for me.  Therefore	it is my
       personnal responsibility	to insure that I am in the highest
       state of	wellness that I	can attain at all times, and to
       seek out	the form of help of my choise if my health is in
       danger.	I am not saying	that conventional medicine is to be
       avoided at all times, if	I am in	a car wreck and	am bleeding
       to death	I am not going to be fussy.  However when I got	the
       flu 2 weeks ago I took 1000mg of	Vit C, 15 mg of	zinc, 25000
       IU's of A and 1000 IU's of D every hour and I was only sick
       for 3 days.  Now	we all know that the flu takes from 1 to 2
       weeks and a doctor would	probably say that I only had a mild
       case, also there	is no medical proof that Vit C does any
       good.  But HEY, it worked.  Even	if it didn't it	didn't hurt
       me.  Now	20000mg	of Vit C would normally	have given me the
       runs in my body's attempt to rid	itself of the excess but it
       didn't.	Could it be that my body was using all that it
       could get to fight the sickness?	 Is there any medical
       proof? I	don't care.

       Here is my plea.	 This is my decision, let me have it.  I
       don't ask that anybody else operate on my advice.  When I go
       to my wholistic doctor he suggests methods of treatment.
       What I do is my choise.	If somebody were to ask	me for
       advice I	will tell them the stories that	I have heard or	my
       personnal experiences.  From there the decision is theirs.
       Most people seem	to like	to go to an office and say "I'm
       sick make me better".  That works OK for	cars.  I like to
       see people handled differently.

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