Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site spar.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!decwrl!spar!kissell From: kissell@spar.UUCP (Kevin Kissell) Newsgroups: net.micro.68k Subject: Re: 68000 Cross Development Tools Message-ID: <118@spar.UUCP> Date: Fri, 1-Mar-85 21:54:22 EST Article-I.D.: spar.118 Posted: Fri Mar 1 21:54:22 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 2-Mar-85 00:41:09 EST References: <602@mako.UUCP> Distribution: na Organization: Schlumberger Palo Alto Research, CA Lines: 30 > Try Microtec Research, 505 West Olive St. #325, Sunnyvale, CA 94086, > (408)733-2919. They have a complete line of 68000 cross development tools > written in portable FORTRAN. I have used only the 68000 simulator on an > IBM/370 under VM/CMS and found it very good -- you could even simulate > I/O and instruciton timings were given. I would expect their other tools > to be of similar quality. > > -- > :::::: Jan Steinman Box 1000, MS 61-161 (w)503/685-2843 :::::: > :::::: tektronix!tekecs!jans Wilsonville, OR 97070 (h)503/657-7703 :::::: I had the "pleasure" of bringing up Microtec's Z80 cross-development package under 4.1 BSD a couple of years ago, and would warn prospective buyers of a couple of things. Microtec's portable FORTRAN is amazing lowest-common-denominator, portable- to-electric-toasters stuff, crawling with arithmetic if's. Relocatable addresses were carried around in floating-point variables, presumably because integers might not have enough bits. Even the input character set was "soft", so each input character was used as an array index into the internal representation table, presumably so it can run on machines that handle strings in Baudot code. I ran into a number of bugs, all of which I found and fixed before their "support" staff. And it ran slow as molases on Callisto. Be careful. It's nice to have the sources, but not always worth it. Kevin D. Kissell Fairchild Advanced Processor Development uucp: {ihnp4 decvax}!decwrl!\ >spar!kissell {ucbvax sdcrdcf}!hplabs!/