Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site brl-tgr.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!mcnc!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!brl-tgr!tgr!ihnp4!wlcrjs!aicchi!ignatz@ucb-vax.ARPA From: ignatz@ucb-vax.ARPA Newsgroups: net.micro Subject: Pournelle Column this month Message-ID: <8537@brl-tgr.ARPA> Date: Sat, 23-Feb-85 13:30:24 EST Article-I.D.: brl-tgr.8537 Posted: Sat Feb 23 13:30:24 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 27-Feb-85 05:46:59 EST Sender: news@brl-tgr.ARPA Lines: 44 Actually, I agree with Jerry on this. It used to be that I could walk into, say, Kroch's and Brentano's, even, and find Knuth's books. True, the computer section was only one set of shelves, but at least solid reference texts were available. Today, any bookstore has a computer section that's longer than the latest Cadillac, and just as senseless for me to peruse. I *don't* want to read any one of the 30 books on "Getting More From Your Apple Basic", etc., ad nauseum. Yes, yes--before you all come to the defense of the poor beginner, I understand that everyone has to start somewhere. But so damn' many of these things are crap, and so many are published, that relatively few solid reference texts for someone like me ever seem to make it to the shelves. I belong to the Computer Science Book Club, mainly because they never pay any attention to my cancellation letters. Most books from them, while masquerading as serious CS texts, are just one level above GMFYAB-- "How To Get More From CICS". Fer cripes sakes, I even saw a title the other day on "Software Defect Removal". Yep. Good, old debugging now has a nice title. (All of this isn't even to mention how obsolete many of the texts the LofCS offers tend to be...) And what with the ACM and its SIGS having an increasing S/N ration, only the IEEE Computer Society journal seems to be publishing decent timely stuff anymore. How about it?? Does anyone have a reasonable source for someone who's years out of school, looking for treatises and reference texts in areas such as AI, network theory, etc., that don't have assignment problems in the back and the word "Elementary" tacked on the front? Any other professional publications that aren't forums for someone to publish minor, derivative works to satisfy their "Publish or Perish" requirements?? Sheesh, this started out as a comment and ended up as a flame...ah, well, I'll leave it in this group. I haven't been in contact for a while, so the mail telling me I'm posting this in the wrong place will prove that I've still got two-way communication with the net... "The next contract requires you to use RSX-11-M..." "Uhhh...." -- Dave Ihnat Analysts International Corporation (312) 882-4673 ihnp4!aicchi!ignatz