Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site watcgl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!watcgl!jchapman From: jchapman@watcgl.UUCP (john chapman) Newsgroups: net.micro,net.micro.pc Subject: Re: sanyo 555 Message-ID: <1265@watcgl.UUCP> Date: Thu, 14-Feb-85 10:38:27 EST Article-I.D.: watcgl.1265 Posted: Thu Feb 14 10:38:27 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 15-Feb-85 03:40:53 EST References: <288@ssc-bee.UUCP> <448@hou2e.UUCP> Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 35 Xref: watmath net.micro:9378 net.micro.pc:3324 > <> > > I have a Sanyo on loan to me and I have the following comments: > > 1) If your looking for an IBM PC compatible, forget it. Most > everything that runs on the PC will not run on the Sanyo. > > 2) The Sanyo is slowwwwwwwwww. I believe that disk access is > not DMA driven and hence a pain to wait for. > > 3) The Sanyo is cheap... so if your not looking to be in the > mainstream of PC computing, this might be the machine for > you. > > Dave Bloom > Bell Labs, Holmdel Regarding (2). Why should DMA have anything to do with it? To my knowledge MS-DOS does not allow IO/compute overlap - when your program does a disk request control does not return until the transfer is complete and the elapsed time for a disk transfer is not going to decrease because of DMA! DMA might help in the case of a hard disk since programmed io is not fast enough to keep up with disk transfer rates most non-dma controllers buffer a sector and then the device driver copies the buffer contents to wherever they are supposed to go - this does take noticably longer than DMA transfers. A more likely explanation for the slowness you percieve is either 1. they supply slow drives (also single density will have a lower transfer rate than double density); or 2. the basic clock speed is lower than the machines you are inplicitly comparing the Sanyo to. A purely personal opinion : it is still more cost effective, particularily in the long run, to go with an IEEE696 (S100) system.