Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site lasspvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!houxm!vax135!cornell!lasspvax!gtaylor From: gtaylor@lasspvax.UUCP (Greg Taylor) Newsgroups: net.music.classical Subject: Re: suggestions for conversation Message-ID: <215@lasspvax.UUCP> Date: Tue, 26-Feb-85 14:06:16 EST Article-I.D.: lasspvax.215 Posted: Tue Feb 26 14:06:16 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 1-Mar-85 05:45:52 EST References: <> Reply-To: gtaylor@lasspvax.UUCP (Greg Taylor) Organization: LASSP, Cornell University Lines: 25 Summary: In article <> malik@star.DEC (Karl Malik ZK01-1/F22 1-1440) writes: > > 5) Is current music theory/scholarship helpful? Or > has it become a jargon-filled competition for > university positions? > Dunno about the musicological community at large, but I recently sat through an *ethnomusicological* gathering at a city I was visiting. It was a subject I was somewhat familiar with, even. I have never laid eyes on such a bunch of obscurantistic pedants in my whole life. My followup comes from Karl's posting, and reading the general form of n.m.c postings: I'm assuming that one finds much the same behaviour in the musicological community as I saw in the ethno& community: It seems as if the reigning powers have bought into something which is rather a cross between the Romantic view of Art, Artists, Society (which I don't buy, but we'll do that only if it comes up), and some sort of Positivist hangup about being able to define, classify, etc. They also aren't all engaging in *making* music, so there seems a certain amount of jealousy, overcompensation, etc. there. In addition, as Karl points out, the field is *extremely* tight, so the defensive instinct is up there. Is there any way out of this?