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From: chuqui@nsc.UUCP (The Phantom)
Newsgroups: net.news
Subject: Re: Can we nuke "Re: Orphaned Response" please?
Message-ID: <2396@nsc.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 26-Feb-85 02:39:42 EST
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Posted: Tue Feb 26 02:39:42 1985
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Summary: 

In article <199@ihlpg.UUCP> fish@ihlpg.UUCP (Bob Fishell) writes:
>Every time I see this title, I want to throw a brick through the
>screen!  

The problem are brain-damaged notes sites. Please note, before the notes
people start flaming, that not all notes sites are brain-damaged, but along
with the lazy people still running A news, outdates B news, and other
random pieces of antiquity, there are a significant percentage of notes
sites out there that don't comform to the Usenet standards and insist on
forcing their problems on the rest of the net. These are the sites that
can't handle 14 character topic names, that don't know how to handle
responses before they get the parents (hence, the 'Orphaned response') and
generally do their own thing regardless of their need to be cooperative in
the network. What can we do? nothing, really-- if they don't feel like
upgrading, all we can do is tolerate it, or write software that eats those
messages or something. There isn't a mechanism for getting a site to
upgrade except getting their feed to cut them off, and that's rather
drastic, and usually impossible anyway. 

What I do, and I suspect many others as well, is simply refuse to read
anything with that header. rn makes that simple, and eventually I would
hope that the posters of such messages notice that they are gettting
significantly fewer comments on their postings than they might otherwise
expect and get their SA's to upgrade. Really hyper people can send letters
of suggestion to the offending sites, but that tends to be a lot of work,
for little reward. 

chuq
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