Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ucla-cs.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!bellcore!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!rochester!rocksvax!parcvax!hplabs!sdcrdcf!trwrb!trwrba!cepu!ucla-cs!wales From: wales@ucla-cs.UUCP Newsgroups: net.nlang Subject: Re: Hungarian words for "love" Message-ID: <4005@ucla-cs.ARPA> Date: Wed, 20-Feb-85 17:31:55 EST Article-I.D.: ucla-cs.4005 Posted: Wed Feb 20 17:31:55 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 28-Feb-85 01:17:41 EST References: <116@rtech.ARPA> <23@cvl.UUCP> Reply-To: wales@ucla-cs.UUCP (Rich Wales) Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Lines: 39 Jeff Lichtman <...!rtech!jeff> mentioned a couple of weeks ago that he had been told there were two different words for "love" in Hungarian. Dave Hsu asked what said two words were. [May I have the envelope, please! . . .] I am quite sure the two words in question are "szerelem" and "szeretet". "Szerelem" refers in general to romantic/passionate love; "szeretet", on the other hand, is more like platonic/charitable/brotherly love. These two words are pronounced approximately like "SEH-reh-lem" and "SEH-reh-tet", respectively. (Hungarian "sz" is pronounced like English "s", while Hungarian "s" is pronounced like English "sh" -- exactly the opposite of Polish, by the way, in case anyone out there knows Polish. Also, ALL Hungarian words are ALWAYS stressed on the first syllable; the accent marks you see on many Hungarian words -- though not on these two particular words -- refer to vowel length/quality, not stress.) My source for the above? Well, I took two years of Hungarian here at UCLA. A very interesting language from a grammatical point of view (like most other Finno-Ugric languages, its prominent features include agglutination and vowel harmony). Vocabulary-wise, I might as well have been studying Martian so far as any meaningful relationships to English were concerned -- which made it quite difficult to gain any real fluency from the few hours a week of exposure I got in class. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Rich Wales University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA) Computer Science Department 3531 Boelter Hall Los Angeles, California 90024 // USA -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Phone: (213) 825-5683 // +1 213 825 5683 ARPANET: wales@UCLA-LOCUS.ARPA UUCP: ...!{cepu,ihnp4,trwspp,ucbvax}!ucla-cs!wales -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-