Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site spp1.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!bellcore!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!hao!hplabs!sdcrdcf!trwrb!trwspp!spp1!johnston From: johnston@spp1.UUCP (Micheal L. Johnston) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: Dearest A Ray Miller Message-ID: <168@spp1.UUCP> Date: Fri, 22-Feb-85 11:53:45 EST Article-I.D.: spp1.168 Posted: Fri Feb 22 11:53:45 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 28-Feb-85 11:44:06 EST References: <208@cmu-cs-gandalf.ARPA> Organization: TRW, Redondo Beach CA Lines: 33 > > THE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM OF CREATIONISM: > > When it comes down to the foundation of creationism, it is the divine > creator that holds everything together. Without that, the theory is > meaningless. Now, how in the world does one go about proving the > existence of a creator (assuming that one is able to clearly define it > in the first place)? What's more important, how does one go about > disproving the existence of a creator? The answer is: You can't! > A divine creator is supernatural; that is, it is beyond the norms of > nature in its characteristics and/or behavior. It is impossible for > any of the natural sciences to explain it. Therefore, to assume the > existence of a creator, which the creationists are doing (refer to > the membership requirements of the ICR and the CRS), is unjustifiable > in science. Since one cannot assume it, one must prove it, being that > everything else sits upon that assertion. But all theories have their assumptions. Evolution bases quite a bit on fossil records and the age there of. Those ages, for the most part are based on radioactive dating techniques which assume that radioactive elements decayed in the same mannner that they do now. > Within science, that proof > is impossible. > KEEBLER Proof doesn't even pertain to the origins question. No proof is possible that something that happened in the past, before records, happened a certain way. All we can do is develop theories and see how the evidence matches those theories. Mike Johnston