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Subject: Re: Orphaned Response
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Date: Wed, 13-Feb-85 01:56:38 EST
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Posted: Wed Feb 13 01:56:38 1985
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Nf-From: inmet!nrh    Feb 11 20:24:00 1985

>***** inmet:net.politics / apollo!dineen /  9:16 am  Feb  8, 1985
>  I grant that
>there aren't any Libertaria's out there to emigrate to but whose fault is
>that?  (It is a significant fact, I think.)

Just as a matter of historical interest, I know of two incidents (third-or
fourth-hand) that are instructive.  It seems there was an organization 
called the Phoenix Foundation, the purpose of which was to find some
unclaimed habitable land, claim it, and start a libertarian society there.

The first claim was made in the Minervan Reef system off the coast of
Australia.  A cairn was built on the "land", and telegrams were sent
to every head of state in the world.  The king of Tonga, the closest
nation, emptied out his prisons, sending the prisoners to fight the
claimants.  The cairn was destroyed and the libertarians fled.

The other incident had to do with a nation that was going to leave
British-French Co-dominion.  The Phoenix foundation went to this
country (sorry, can't remember the name) and started agitating for
the new constitution to be libertarian.  The outgoing government 
apparently CALLED THE BRITISH BACK to handle the "menace", and, as 
I understand it, the head of the Phoenix Foundation is now in 
a British prison for "sedition".

As I say, these are third- or fourth-hand stories, make of them
what you will.