Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site tty3b.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!mgnetp!ltuxa!tty3b!mjk From: mjk@tty3b.UUCP (Mike Kelly) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: poll (nuclear disarmament verifiability) Message-ID: <613@tty3b.UUCP> Date: Fri, 22-Feb-85 17:06:25 EST Article-I.D.: tty3b.613 Posted: Fri Feb 22 17:06:25 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 26-Feb-85 07:14:25 EST References: <527@decwrl.UUCP> <680@sdcsvax.UUCP> <610@tty3b.UUCP>, <609@mhuxt.UUCP> Organization: Teletype Corp., Skokie, Ill Lines: 36 From: js2j@mhuxt.UUCP (sonntag) ------------------------------------- You're going to 'listen' for hidden nuclear missiles? Suprise! They actually *don't* make ticking noises. Get serious! How could a thing like that be verified without extensive searching (over the whole world) by both sides, continuously? Test-ban treaties are easy to verify, of course, but that's not what we're talking about here. Seriously, almost *everyone* would be for disarmament if we thought it could be mutual and verifiable. I wouldn't trust my *own* government to actually disarm, though, much less the USSR's. ------------------------------------- First, our satellites *do* extensively search the world continuously. Second, the means of verification would have to be built into the treaty. That might require on-site inspection. Both sides are quite well aware of the number, size and location of strategic missiles. The treaty would include a mutually agreeable procedure for dismantling these. The fact that cruise and other missiles are much more difficult to verify is precisely why arms control becomes more urgent by the day. Our ability to hide is constantly pushing ahead of our ability to detect. If the new cruise missiles are deployed in large numbers, the problem becomes much more difficult. As Henry Kissinger once said of his decision to MIRV our missiles (a move the Soviets, of course, quickly copied), "I wish I'd thought out the consequences of a MIRVed world." We wish you had, too, Henry. (The consequences are destabilizing, since first strike becomes theoretically more attractive -- one missile can knock out several warheads.) The point is that things that can't be verified aren't involved in the negotiations. Verification is built-in. And a comprehensive test-ban would be just fine, as a first step, because it would mean an end to development of new technology within short order. Mike Kelly