Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site whuxl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxb!houxm!whuxl!orb From: orb@whuxl.UUCP (SEVENER) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: To tim sevener re media bias Message-ID: <498@whuxl.UUCP> Date: Tue, 26-Feb-85 09:25:41 EST Article-I.D.: whuxl.498 Posted: Tue Feb 26 09:25:41 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 28-Feb-85 11:42:04 EST References: <700@decwrl.UUCP> Organization: /usr/exptools/lib/netnews/myorg Lines: 49 > from Ken Arndt: > Gee, how come all the smucks who read those rags you know so much about and > watch the T V don't agree with you?? > > Do yourself a favor and ask ONE other person if they think there is a liberal > bias to the news. I mean, my word man, the press jokes about it. "Truth is not decided by an opinion poll" That is point number one. Point number two is: "What poll are you citing?" The final point is that lacking evidence, it seems you feel forced to appeal to prejudice. It is one thing to have an opinion that the press has a "liberal bias". (I think it would be easier to prove a status quo / conservative bias). It is another thing to prove it or present evidence of it. I have presented very concrete evidence: the actual political endorsements of the nation's newspapers. Those endorsements are *overwhelmingly* conservative! Thus I would argue there is a *conservative* bias in the nation's press. This conservative bias is represented in the very mechanism by which "news" is made as described by Hans Gerth. (I forget the exact title of his book) "News" is largely created by leaders of bureaucracies and organizations. Thus, the President for example, as leader of the largest bureaucracy has enormous power to shape the news. Members of the cabinet as well have great access to the media. Members of the cabinet are overwhelmingly chosen from the upper class. Domhoff's book, "Who Rules America", documents the upper class origins of cabinet members. This does not mean there is a "conspiracy", nor does it mean that the upper class is of one monolithic opinion. But it does mean that coming from backgrounds of wealth and privilege (and generally owning quite large chunks of it while holding office) these people are very prone to protect such wealth and privilege. They are also prone to represent their own bureaucracies- thus Caspar Weinberger so crassly defends the Pentagon budget. People who are *not* heads of some bureaucracy or organization just do not get access to the media. Thus such groups have resorted to demonstrations and other means to attempt to get their views across. Earlier you said groups could always get access to the media: according to a "Currents" show on Sunday nite on the local PBS station *even if they PAY for commercial airtime groups can be denied access to the media*! It is entirely up to the networks and station managers to determine if a commercial is "too controversial"- according to Peter Sandman of Rutgers on this show, networks and station managers *have* refused to air commercials for the United Auto Workers and other groups. I would like to see you refute the hypothesis that the media has a *conservative* bias. tim sevener whuxl!orb "That nut said the Earth is round- but we *all* know the Earth is *flat*"