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From: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen)
Newsgroups: net.politics.theory
Subject: Re: What is a libertarian go[u]verment?
Message-ID: <326@psivax.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 13-Feb-85 19:01:10 EST
Article-I.D.: psivax.326
Posted: Wed Feb 13 19:01:10 1985
Date-Received: Sun, 17-Feb-85 05:42:33 EST
References: <421@klipper.UUCP> <627@unmvax.UUCP> <303@psivax.UUCP> <645@unmvax.UUCP>
Reply-To: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley friesen)
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Summary: 

In article <645@unmvax.UUCP> cliff@unmvax.UUCP writes:
>> In article <627@unmvax.UUCP> cliff@unmvax.UUCP writes:
>> >  With a sufficiently small
>> >kernel as the actual government itself, it would be possible to finance the
>> >entire government proper through private donations and user fees (i.e. a
>> >convicted criminal can either cough up sufficient money to pay for his trial
>> >incarceration, etc. or face deportation)
>> >
>> 	What is this! You would inflict our crazies, murderers, and
>> just plain anti-socials on the rest of the world if they do not have
>> enough money to pay for the trial???  This is hardly fair to our
>> neighbors!
>
>If another country doesn't want them, then they don't get moved, but what if
>for some reason, there were laws in Libertaria that the people in GSR (Generic
>Socialist Republic) thought were foolish, and the people in GSR were willing
>to accept criminals of that nature.  Ship them over and be rid of them.
>Remember, in general, being a convict says very little about your willingness
>to comit murder or even be anti-social.  In the USSR (the leader in prison
>population per capita) they lock up political dissidents, in South Africa
>(number 2 in prison population per capita) they lock up political dissidents
>and in the U.S. (We're Number 3!  We're Number 3!) we lock up the poor (through
>victimless crime laws)...  There is nothing inherently anti-social about being
>a political dissident or being poor.  In general, if there is another country
>willing to accept a convict, let him go, with the knowledge that he will never
>be allowed to set foot in this country again.
>
	This is a *partial* answer, but your original(above) said
that *everyone* who refuses to or cannot pay gets deported. If this
is *not* what you had in mind, then what *do* you propose doing with
the non-payers who are unacceptable to all other societies?  Or if
the original statement is what you meant, then my statement stands,
you will be inflicting crazies on the rest of the world, I have a hard
time seeing a mass murderer agreeing to pay for his incarceration!
I would rather see such people locked up *at public expense* than let
them go *anywhere* else.
-- 

				Sarima (Stanley Friesen)

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