Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 8/23/84; site ucbcad.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!ucbvax!ucbcad!faustus From: faustus@ucbcad.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Re: Taxation is theft? Message-ID: <109@ucbcad.UUCP> Date: Mon, 18-Feb-85 11:20:24 EST Article-I.D.: ucbcad.109 Posted: Mon Feb 18 11:20:24 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 20-Feb-85 07:40:25 EST References: <326@gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP> , <1370@dciem.UUCP> <5045@utzoo.UUCP> <674@ccice5.UUCP> Organization: UC Berkeley CAD Group, Berkeley, CA Lines: 22 > 1. Private charity can not create an adequate social net. (I'm not going > to argue this one with anybody; I believe it!) > 2. Without the social net, people would have no alternative but to get > goods and services in any way they can. (Criminal acts enter here) > 3. Criminal acts are going to be directed at those that have goods and > services. (The rich certainly have the goods) > So what the rich have to gain from the redistribution of wealth is their > lives. That may seem far-fetched, but there are plenty of incidents from > history that show it can happen. You have a good point, but the question is, what sort of safety net are we talking about? The present system of unemployment insurance, medicare, social security, etc is too much. What I would like to see is a system where the government provides housing, food, and medical care for people who don't have any money, but at a very basic level. People who are getting these benefits should have to do at least a token amount of work, unless they are too old or otherwise incapable of working. Something like that would be more of a real "safety net" than what we have now, which provides too much support to some and too little to others. Wayne