Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!laura From: laura@utzoo.UUCP (Laura Creighton) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Hard case #1 Message-ID: <5090@utzoo.UUCP> Date: Fri, 22-Feb-85 13:05:26 EST Article-I.D.: utzoo.5090 Posted: Fri Feb 22 13:05:26 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 22-Feb-85 13:05:26 EST References: <695@topaz.ARPA> <263@cmu-cs-k.ARPA> <708@topaz.ARPA>, <939@ihuxb.UUCP> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 33 There is a basic problem with the traditional notion of ``crime and punishment''. From the time of Hammurabi and the cuniforms we have been told that having the punishments for a given crime written down where all (who could read) could read them was a good idea, since it limited the power of the judges who could pass any sentence for any crime. I think that this was the wrong fix. What we need is a better way to select judges. When it comes to ``the thief stealing bread'' we have 2 questions -- was a crime committed, and what do we do about it. There is no question that the crime was comitted, so we should find the thief guilty. *BUT* now what? It may be that the best thing to do is to sentence this person to show up at the local Salvation Army organisation, where he can be fed, and receive help in looking for work. Since this requires real wisdom on the part of judges, this is always going to be a difficult job. However, it may be that one corner of the problem is that, by and large, it is the lawyers who become the judges. The very personality traits which make for a great criminal lawyer may not be the ones that make for a great judge. I am not sure what should be used to select for judges, though -- how does one select for a good Rabbi, I wonder. Anybody have any proposed reforms of the Canadian or American justice system? I have one -- as a first cut, stop imprisoning anyone except for those who have committed violent crime and are considered a menace. Imprisonment is a stupid form of punishment -- an imprisoned man can not compensate his victims *anything* while in jail. Laura Creighton utzoo!laura