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From: dan@scgvaxd.UUCP (Dan Boskovich)
Newsgroups: net.religion
Subject: Re: RCs and WORKS
Message-ID: <269@scgvaxd.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 14-Feb-85 17:40:23 EST
Article-I.D.: scgvaxd.269
Posted: Thu Feb 14 17:40:23 1985
Date-Received: Fri, 15-Feb-85 09:49:46 EST
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In article <542@decwrl.UUCP> arndt@lymph.DEC writes:
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>The Roman Catholics have one of the STRONGEST posititons on salvation by
>grace alone of all the Christian groups!  It is in the statements that come
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>Well, the statements of the Council, if you look them up, say "anyone who
>says that salvation comes from works or a mixture of grace and works,
>IS CURSED!!"  That's more than some modern protestant groups!  The 'grace' of

 This may be their official statement, but it is contradicted in practice
 and in other statements of official dogma. For example, the taking of the
 Eucharest is quite essential for salvation. Actually, it is RC dogma which
 states that baptism is essential for salvation (a work), and that baptism
 only takes away the sins of the person up to the point of baptism. Then,
 as the "Custodian of Grace" the RC church has the power and responsibility
 of keeping their disciples saved through the administration of the "seven"
 sacraments. In short, an RC is never assured of salvation. He must always
 strive to receive the sacraments on a regular basis, confess his sins to
 a priest, receive the body and blood of Christ (holy eucharist), and even
 perform penance when his priest deems necessary. The RC in Roman definition
 is saved by Grace, but this grace is earned by the series of works described
 above. The RC may not call baptism, communion, confession, penance etc.
 works, but the Reformers surely did!