Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site cmu-cs-gandalf.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!rochester!cmu-cs-pt!cmu-cs-gandalf!hua From: hua@cmu-cs-gandalf.ARPA (Ernest Hua) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: WHY ?! Message-ID: <209@cmu-cs-gandalf.ARPA> Date: Sat, 16-Feb-85 21:11:37 EST Article-I.D.: cmu-cs-g.209 Posted: Sat Feb 16 21:11:37 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 19-Feb-85 06:13:12 EST Organization: Carnegie-Mellon University, CS/RI Lines: 27 =========================================================================== First, many thanks to all the responded to my first posting entitled "Why should YOU believe ..." Now, I must insist that someone please give me specific reasons for believing. It may help you to note that I am often skeptical and I find it impossible to believe in the supernatural, whether it is Jupiter or Jesus. Someone said in a previous article that somethings are better explained by using God. Really?! Please give me a CONCRETE example! (You know who you are, and I am sure that many other readers feel the same way.) By the way, please have enough common sense to distinguish between concrete facts (e.g. c = 3E+8 m/s) and subjective concepts (e.g. love). I have seen far too many proofs of God through arguments like: "If man can love, he must have been created by/through loving things. Therefore, there must have been a First Cause that loves." For those of you who cannot seen the fallacies in this argument, read this example: Have you ever tried to mix two dyes, one of blue and the other of yellow? Have you ever noticed that the result is green, which is neither blue nor yellow. Technicallity: You, as the "Creator" in this mixing process, are not green either! Anyway, this is more food for thought ... Keebler