Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles $Revision: 1.6.2.17 $; site uiucdcsb.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcsb!stout From: stout@uiucdcsb.UUCP Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Re: Mormons are not Christians. Message-ID: <11900033@uiucdcsb.UUCP> Date: Mon, 18-Feb-85 09:38:00 EST Article-I.D.: uiucdcsb.11900033 Posted: Mon Feb 18 09:38:00 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 21-Feb-85 07:24:40 EST References: <319@gargoyle.UUCP> Lines: 33 Nf-ID: #R:gargoyle:-31900:uiucdcsb:11900033:000:1801 Nf-From: uiucdcsb!stout Feb 18 08:38:00 1985 >> For the record, Mormon's believe everyone will make it to heaven. >>Indeed, there is no hell. But, my friends, there are three sections >>to the afterlife. >Almost right. There's also a possibility for hard-core types to get >expelled into the outer darkness, where there is wailing and gnashing >of teeth. My understanding is that it takes a heinous crime such as >becoming an Elder and then becoming an apostate and denying the truth >of the religion ... perhaps some current LDS member could describe other >ways of making it? > Jim Gillogly Almost right. Here is the most pertinent quote (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.358): "What must a man do to commit the unpardonable sin? He must receive the Holy Ghost, have the heavens opened unto him, and know God, and then sin against Him. After a man has sinned against the Holy Ghost, there is no repentence for him. He has got to say that the sun does not shine while he sees it; he has got to deny Jesus Christ when the heavens have been opened unto him, and to deny the plan of salvation with his eyes open to the truth of it; and from that time he begins to be an enemy. This is the case with many apostates of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." Instead of thinking that anyone who leaves and denies the church has committed the unpardonable sin, most Mormons tend to think that this is a rare occurrence, reasoning that very few have had the depth of knowledge-- "the heavens opened unto them," etc.--to be capable of that great a sin. Most LDS members I know hesitate to accuse anyone of being a "son of perdition," however bitter he is. Those interested in the LDS concept of the afterlife should read section 76 of the Doctrine and Covenants as the prime source. Bryan Stout ihnp4!uiucdcs!stout