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From: mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz)
Newsgroups: net.religion
Subject: Re: Getting Personal about God
Message-ID: <379@cybvax0.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 25-Feb-85 12:39:53 EST
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Posted: Mon Feb 25 12:39:53 1985
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In article <682@decwrl.UUCP> merrill@rex.DEC writes:
> Therefore it is logical that ANY "objective evidence" could be dismissed by
> YOU as a practical joke.  Some of the people in Moses day must have
> thought his miracles were some hacker's pranks. 

The point is not the motivation of the being that produces the "evidence".
The point is how likely that being is to affect my welfare, and how I
can achieve the best outcome for myself by serving, toadying, ignoring,
or avoiding that being.  Without sufficient evidence as to the source of
the evidence, how can I distinguish which is the best strategy?

> >Right there in the Bible are numerous purportedly undeniable miracles.
> >Such as the opening of the Red Sea, etc.  Such as the stopping of the sun.
> >Why should I insist on anything less?
> 
> When was the last time you ASKED Him for something "vital"?  

If evidence of god isn't vital what is?  I asked frequently when I was a
believer (until about age 16.)  It's hard to ask, now that I consider it a
myth.

> >> If you could choose HOW God would reveal himself to you personally,[...]
> > If that happens to me, then I'll believe.  No sweat. [...]
> > I don't see that I could distinguish Satan from God from any other
> > sufficiently manipulative being.
> 
> Would you sincerely like people to pray for you, Mike? 

Is this a non-sequiteur?  You may do anything you like.
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Mike Huybensz		...decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!cybvax0!mrh