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From: teitz@aecom.UUCP (Eliyahu Teitz)
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Subject: Re: Re: Re: Ethiopian Jews, Racist Ultra-Orthodox, and "Who is a Rabbi?"
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Date: Mon, 11-Feb-85 13:32:03 EST
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> Re Samuel Saal's long letter on how Israel should be ruled according
> to the wishes of the Orthodox Jews:
> 
> The letter is based on a false assumption.
> Modern Israel was not established as a "Jewish State", it was
> established as a "state for the Jews".
> This will (hopefully) keep Israel from becoming another Iran . . .
    

     Boy, this sound like something I was saying a few weeks ago. 
     The only argument I give is that Israel should be a Jewish state,
 and that I will fight my hardest to try and insure that it becomes one.
 The analogy to Iran is very weak. Iran is reverting back to another world,
 long since gone. Orthodox Jews and halacha do not do this. Orthodox Jews
 ( excluding Chassidim ) try to synthesize the world into religion, and not
 the other way around. We try to be of the world. The problem with this,
 which the chassidim try to avoid is assimilation the oter way, when Judaism
 gets changed to accomodate the views of others. The chassidim retreat into 
 their shtetl and ghetto. Other orthodox Jews challenge the world and say 
 they can withstand the temptation. Manl. Others succeed. The common
 factor among the successful is education. With education we can hold up
 against the temptations of the world against us. 


			Eliyahu Teitz.