Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site ihuxn.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!ihuxn!jho From: jho@ihuxn.UUCP (Yosi Hoshen) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: "Jewish State" vs. "state for the Jews" Message-ID: <960@ihuxn.UUCP> Date: Thu, 14-Feb-85 09:17:24 EST Article-I.D.: ihuxn.960 Posted: Thu Feb 14 09:17:24 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 15-Feb-85 05:22:28 EST References: <861@eisx.UUCP> <4644@ucbvax.ARPA> <8@cvl.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 24 > Assuming you're correct (and I don't believe that you are), I pose > the following QUESTION: > > If ISRAEL is only to be a "state for the Jews" and not a "Jewish > State" ( "Jewish State" meaning one that adheres to the Jewish religion ) > what purpose does it serve? We already have a "state for the Jews" (where > the standard of living is much higher than in Israel) ; it's called NEW YORK . > > Ari Gross > arig@cvl.arpa > If New York is a "State of Jews" then why was it not open for Jews who where trying to flee from Europe before WWII. Israel on the other hand is open for all oppressed Jews. Israel provides a refuge for Jews escaping from oppression. Jew flee to Israel to escape various forms of oppression, including religious oppression. The irony of it is that they may encounter a new form of religious coercion imposed by the orthodox who wish to impose their religion/superstition on them. -- Yosi Hoshen, Bell Laboratories Naperville, Illinois, (312)-979-7321, Mail: ihnp4!ihuxn!jho