Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site sfmag.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxb!mhuxn!mhuxm!sftig!sftri!sfmag!samet From: samet@sfmag.UUCP (A.I.Samet) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: "Jewish State" vs. "state for the Jews" Message-ID: <485@sfmag.UUCP> Date: Thu, 14-Feb-85 21:06:35 EST Article-I.D.: sfmag.485 Posted: Thu Feb 14 21:06:35 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 15-Feb-85 06:16:12 EST References: <861@eisx.UUCP> <4644@ucbvax.ARPA> <8@cvl.UUCP> <960@ihuxn.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Summit, NJ Lines: 20 > The irony of it is that they may encounter a new > form of religious coercion imposed by the orthodox who wish to impose > their religion/superstition on them. ON THE SUBJECT OF IRONY: A far sadder irony is Israel's history of ANTI-religious coercion, a documented history under which, among other things, children were taken from religious parents to irreligious kibbutzim and forced to abandon religious practice. Why are our champions of religious freedom so oblivious to that side of the coin? Perhaps this is the irony of "the pot calling the kettle black". That master ironicist, Orwell, wrote "All animals are equal but some are more equal than others." Those who chant self- righteously about intolerance seem to drown out the voices of logic. Stop and consider .... Yitzchok Samet