Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site aecom.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!sdcsvax!dcdwest!ittvax!decvax!linus!philabs!aecom!teitz From: teitz@aecom.UUCP (Eliyahu Teitz) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Re: Shabbos and holidays in space Message-ID: <1155@aecom.UUCP> Date: Wed, 13-Feb-85 14:11:14 EST Article-I.D.: aecom.1155 Posted: Wed Feb 13 14:11:14 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 17-Feb-85 04:53:35 EST References: <1300@ut-ngp.UUCP> Organization: Albert Einstein Coll. of Med., NY Lines: 30 > Also in the same article, the rabbi claimed that a similar > question (vis a vis Sabbath and holidays in space) is one > concerning Jewish travelers flying from San Francisco to > Tokyo. If the passenger leaves San Francisco Friday afternoon > and arrives in Tokyo Sunday morning, with Saturday > disappearing because the international date line was crossed: > "The person simply does not have a Sabbath to celebrate" > according to Goren. My father asked me an interesting question regarding the dateline. If a person were to cross from Shabbat to Friday would he have to make havdala ? Eliyahu Teitz. p.s. The question boils down to this. If havdala is recited when going from one state of holiness ( Shabbat ) to a lower level ( weekday ) then this should apply no matter which day of the week the prson is going to. Just as a side point. There was a big question in the Second World War as to where the halachik dateline is. The question arose because of the Mir Yeshiva which was in Japan on their way from Poland to America. The two major opinions were that the dateline is either 6 or 12 hours east of Jerusalem. One end up in Japan and the other in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. Because of the minority opinion ( of the Chazon Is"h, Rabbi A. Karelitz ) and the possibility that it might be right, the students of the yeshiva fasted two days of Yom Kippur. Everyone fasted the first day and on the second day a doctor went around checking the students to see how they looked. If the doctor told a student to eat, the student was set out to eat. There were some,though, who fasted two comlete days ( along wit all the accompanying prayers ).