Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site moscom.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!rochester!ritcv!moscom!de From: de@moscom.UUCP (Dave Esan) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Conversion Controversy Message-ID: <510@moscom.UUCP> Date: Tue, 19-Feb-85 14:44:39 EST Article-I.D.: moscom.510 Posted: Tue Feb 19 14:44:39 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 21-Feb-85 06:08:20 EST Distribution: net Organization: MOSCOM Corp, E Rochester, NY, USA Lines: 26 [There are too many previous articles to reference.] The present discussion on conversion has many areas where it may naturally lead; however there is an area that we should try to avoid, and that is generalization. Not all Orthodox agree on anything, as a matter of fact, there is probably little that they do agree on. The same applies to the Conservative and the Reform movements. Not all Orthodox consider the other movements to be heretical, nor do all the members of the other movements consider the Orthodox to be too frumm. Lets avoid general attacks, and concentrate on the issues. I have serious difficulty with non-Orthodox conversion, but not for religious reasons. I just am not sure what they accomplish. While my statistical base is small, I have seen people who converted through the Orthodox process act, think and feel Jewish, and become pillars of the community. I cannot say that for those I've seen who converted other- wise. One even converted after Purim, and on Pesach ate chometz (leavened bread) (the two holidays are 30 days apart). I am sure that there are people who converted Conservative and Reform who are Jewish (to use the running definition). I would be interested in other people's experiences. I would also be interested in why someone would convert and then not observe, unless of course the conversion was for marriage. (Hmm, seems to be a point buried here --).) David Esan (!moscom!de)